Re: Wolftone ARE YOU A REAL PADDY OR A PLASTIC ONE

Date: 9th Nov '01

Name: John

Country: IRL

Its quite interesting that you'd prefer to talk about "science" than politics. Now I haven't been to England all that much except to visit some of my family who live in Tottenham, so i'm not going to lecture you about what impact black people have ahd on life there. But one thing i can say is that they haven't _caused_ the problems facing white working class people in Britain. The most you can come up with is that they're responsable for crime. Which assumes white working class people don't committ crimes which I'm sure a Daily Mail reader wouldn't deny. As for race, the theory that human societies are defined by genetics is ridiculous but it must be comforting for people like you who think that all societies problems can be solved by apealing to a "racial" order which everyone somehow feels naturally. Which of course leaves no room for democracy, freedom of choice and all the other stuff you're against. And I'm not denying the existance of genetics or evolution, what I am saying is that peoples presonalities, attitudes, psychologies are not pre-ordained, they are formed from experiances, upbringing ect. Its true that genetics can have some bearing on this, but equally, genetics are too varied in any large society (like one bigger than a small village) and even in any family to produce uniform phsycological traits. And even if this was true, there is not a single society in the world that does not have genetically mixed "stock", even if you leave out immigration. Ask yourself this, because people in say Northumberland behave differently to people in London, does this mean they have different genetic material? Or does it mean that they have grown up in very different enviroments? Would you expect a white person in Los Angeles to hold similar values, behave the same as white person in Siberia? Or would they resemble a black person of a similar background also from LA? Even more relevantly, do you think that because working class peole will end to do worse in school and get worse jobs on the whole than middle class people, that they are inferior "racially" as well?

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