More lies from Donald Madperson
Date: 2nd June '01
Name: IN THEIR OWN WORDS
Country: Teletubbyland
Looks like "Duckman" the leader of the SRSM is going frantic in his efforts to find the RA mole on his 'Scottish republican' list... Please note that he further plays himself and his pathetic 'organisation' into the frame in terms of STALKING the TAL editor when he reprints an address in Wales that he believes the TAL editor is resident at. Is this further evidence of the SRSM's conspiracy to murder the editor of TAL?
The old STALKER is obviously losing the place altogether and is playing his organisation and himself personally into the hatred and perverted STALKING of the TAL editor and his family. For the record, the TAL editor's eldest son is now 13 years old, which places him aged 4 at the time of the incident that Duckman claims "he was at least 8" (as if that makes him and his comrade 'sleazy' Stan Green's attack on the TAL editor acceptable!?!) The "conspiracy" by the SRSM against the TAL editor is further verified and indeed is confirmed by Anderson when he say that he has "been looking for him ever since".
You're already in a hole Donald... STOP DIGGING!!!
The racist remarks that he made about the Turkish hunger strikers is dismissed as "banter".
What do the SSP leadership make of this stuff???
Or has it become common currency within their ranks to quote SRSM smears against TAL & RA?
Read on...
From: James Tait
To: scottishrepublican@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:58 PM
Subject: [scottishrepublican] TAL & SRSM
I hope nobody minds if I put this on the SR list. 2 reasons.
1) When I sent the reply to one of the address (irsp@netwiz.net) it came back
as "failed" (As have other mails I have tried sending to this addy in the past) so he didnt get it.
2) And most importantly, I do not want this to be kept behind "closed doors".
I have nothing to hide in any of this as I am not part of any conspiracy. As I have said - I am
not a member or supporter of Red Action
(although I do support AFA and was an activist for several years) and my only
connection with TAL is that I read it (and support the idea of spreading Republican ideas amongst Celtic
supporters - I would support similar initiatives based around other clubs equally so - I really
do not
understand why anyone could have a problem with this).
J.
The top post is my reply to Donalds post which is below.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Tait
Hello Donald,
I can truthfully say that the first I knew of the posts on the RA site were
when I saw reference to them on your list. Nobody has heard of me eh Donald? Well, before I went on
your list, I'd never heard of you either (Although I was vaguely aware of SRSP but had
never met any of its members in all my years in the anti-fascist scene and political
scene in Edinburgh.)
The only thing I have posted to SR list concerning this is the TAL statement on Jason Kelly which I assumed would be of interest (as it has proved to be). What other items are you referring to that I have posted to your list that could in any way have been considered disruptive?
Does it not occur to you for a moment that there may well be RA supporters on your list? (which is open to anyone to sub to - do you know the identity of every subscriber?)
I have never hidden my own political affiliations - SLP, AFA plus another group which was recently outlawed under Straw's new PTA.
I do not know what you are referring to about Matt Lygate.
As for Stevie Lees, I have not seen the guy since probably 1994 or 95 at the latest.
However, I will say though that all the people on the Left I have met who have denounced Stevie have been without exception the sort of middle-class liberal drivel that I would (and on occasion have) happily kick the crap out of myself given half the chance.
I appreciate you sending me the account below, but until I have seen the RA
website and the content that I assume you are refferring to here I can't really say much more.
J.
----- Original Message -----
From: donald.scotrepublic
To: James Tait
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:33 AM
Subject: mix
Hi,
You claim to be a Scottish Republican Socialist, yet know one in the Movement
has heard of you, or are aware of any contribution you have made to the cause. Your Postings on the
SR site, seems to be about 80% general forwarding, which no one disagrees with. The only time you
have specifically mentioned Scotland was to bring up the subject of Steven Lees/Red Action/AFA,
to which we replied. I personally do not read his site or paper.
Recently my mail has been flooded with postings forwarded from his site concerning
myself and the SRSM. I can only presume that it yourself responsible for forwarding our SR
in reply to your promptings. It seems the
worst you can come up with is, to forward some mild banter to comrade on a closed
list about a Turkey. I can assure you my Irish prisoner friends are used to stronger banter
than that, both ways. You then acknowledged that I do support the prisoners and still kept posting
and acting as a conduit for
Lee ravings.
Since he now has the confidence to make public attacks on the SRSM and myself I will impart the following information, perhaps naively in giving you the benefit of the doubt in your ignorance of the man's history.
For the record. It is a fact hat Jason Kelly is not and never has been a member
of the SRSM. He is friendly with Donnie Fraser, as you can gather from the list. He was refused
access to our events and activities in the
past because of his record in AFA, but that is of no concern of yours, or Mr
Lees. It is also a fact that Jason was a member of RA/AFA. So what? It is also a fact that we do not
attack Matt Lygate in public, nor he us. We split in the mid eighties for reasons that do not concern
you or Lees. So why the
Red Herrings?
I was in Clydeside Press today, a workers Coop, with a fine respected Socialist
record. He confirmed that Mr Lees did not bump him for 700 but, nearer 1000. Mr Lygate also bumped
him in the past, but that is neither here nor there, nor is there any cause to repeat it. Mr Lees
problem stems
from the fact that we have always condemned sectarian bigotry and opportunism
and the fact that we say so to Celtic fans Bands Alliance and our Irish Republican comrades. We have
always resisted the "temptation" to
hawk goods at Parkheid, Bairds, Brazen Head, and other Celtic fan's haunts,
as a matter of principle. Our Irish comrades are aware of that. we are a Scottish organisation
and pretend to be nothing else. We are not a support group, nor would we expect our IRSP comrades
to act as one neither. We do
not attack SF or any other Irish group. Only Irish groups, we believe, have
that right. By Irish I mean those on the spot actually engaged in the struggle and it is up to them
to decided the pros and cons of the peace
process. London based groups are notorious about telling others to run their
revolution in the absence of running one in GB/UK land.
As for the remark about Lees being with his 4 year old boy. I reckon he would
have been at least 8 years old, not 4. I challenged Steve to explain why he had not answered my letters
to him and his London bosses on the lying letter he sent to the Bands Alliance. You asked me
to make that public. I told you to verify it with the Bands and all the pubs Lees hung about. Lees
shouted, I'm with my boy. I told him I just wanted and answer. I adhere to the old Glasgow tradition
that you do not attack a ned when he is with a woman or child. He then got bold and told me
to F** off, rather than answer me. Gwen from the CP, in Clyde Books told me that she did not want any
trouble I assured her that was not my intention. Your wee fat hero then
tried a sneaky head butt while I was looking at Gwen (confirm it with her).
I think he thought he could deck me. I head butted him back and battered into him. I stopped on Gwen's
request. Only a coward would use his boy as a shield to try that on. Gwen suggested we go round
the back shop to discuss the matter. Lees blamed his lies on Jimmy Wright of the Bands Alliance
and
told me he was sorry and that I would not hear from him again. He pulled a CS
canister and sprayed me in the eyes and tried to pull a weapon. I could barely see to belt him and
he screamed for Gwen. When she came in he ran out of the shop and I have been looking for him since.
You seen to have illusions about him that no one else has. I have argued with
the Brit left because of their disgraceful attitude to Scotland. But, I have never condoned any violence
towards them, as your man has. It well known that he encouraged neds to attack anarchists and
socialists with sticks or bats or other weapons. He broke an SWP girl's jaw outside of the Scotia Bar.
Get him to deny that. The SWP told me that again this week and that they expelled him - and
they do not expel people lightly. The Militant expelled him for pulling a knife at a meeting. The Labour
Party expelled him for something similar. Twice that I heard he attacked people at a James Connolly
meeting. One a fitness individual, who could have killed him easily He threatened Gerry Cairns,
of the MacLean Society, SRSM, saying he would blew oor heids aff, if we wrote to the AP/RN
condemning bigotry again, which
we did. Gerry was not frightened of the turd but made the mistake of trying
to reason with him. This is what I pulled him up about in Clyde books, as well a s the lies he was bad
mouthing about the SRSP and myself, as I feel I had every right to.
Do you not find it odd that a Scot should live in Llanidloes, Powys, Wales, pretending to be an Irishman and changed his English surname to that of a False Irish one? That is not a slight on English surnames. Just on those who pretend to be something they are not and adopts the politics of a sneak.
I could go on and on, but find it odd that you have met the man and have not
heard this from every left group in Glasgow, nor sussed his character yet. Suffice to say I believe
you owe the rest of the group an apology for
violating their trust.
Donald Anderson
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