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Huw
Socialist Alliance results

These are at http://www.socialistalliance.net/news/SAresults.html. However, I'd check to council websites mentioned for accuracy, as I did with the BNP - the BNP UNDERestimated results, eg Mark Collett's percentage! .

Old Post Wed 14th May 2003
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Our Campaign in Preston

Background

The election victory in Preston had its roots in the Stop the War Coalition. I
am co-ordinator of Preston Stop the War and the coalition has worked very hard
to ensure active meetings and large turn-outs on the various local, regional
and national demonstrations. Our monthly steering committee meetings, for
example, were open meetings and regularly had between 60 and 120 people at
them. We also tried to make them inclusive - so the time of these meetings
would change to fit in with prayers at the local Mosques, there is no point in
having a regular fixed meeting at 7.30 say, if it means a large number of your
activists can't be there. Because the time changed it meant that before every
meeting we would have to e-mail and phone everyone who had been to any of our
activities - and this kept us in touch with our activist base (though it didn't
do much for my phone bill!).

I have lived in Preston for just over 12 years. The StW Coalition has now
organised the biggest meeting in Preston for years (bigger than any I'd known)
when over 600 people came to listen to John Rees and Yvonne Ridley the week war
started. And it sent more people to every demonstration than I'd previously
known. Prior to the anti-war campaign our biggest turn-out at a national demo
in my time had been the 2 buses we sent to the Welling demo against the nazis
in the early 1990s. But in September there were 4 buses, in February 3 buses
and a train and in March 3 buses.

One of the most important aspects of how we organised was to actively engaged
with people from the Asian community in Preston. In particular at the largest
Mosque in Preston there were a large group of people who came to each
demonstration. From the turn of the year I visited the Mosque at least once a
week. I helped book transport for people coming from the Mosque (some people
came on our buses and trains, but some wanted to travel together, so we also
organised a bus that would leave from the Mosque). The organisation of this was
coordinated through the StW coalition. Further, at the People's Assembly,
Preston sent 16 delegates and 3 were directly elected from the Mosque.

One very important event that took place the week before war started was a
petition for local Labour MP, Mark Hendrick. This originated within Mosque but
they approach the coalition and asked me to their first meeting (with
representatives of 11 of the 12 mosques in Preston). Hendrick's position was
that he would only support war if there was a second UN resolution. The
activists in the Mosques took the lead on the petition. They wanted to get
12,000 signatures (the size of his majority) together in just over a week. They
worked incredibly hard to get this huge total and we presented the petition to
Hendrick on day one of the war. There were 10,256 signatures. This was an
important turning point. The Asian community in Preston has traditionally been
solidly Labour, but now cracks were stating to appear. There was some talk of
an anti-war candidate standing at the local elections. There was debate about
whether we should stand and who it should be. When the decision was made most
people thought I was the best candidate given the political situation at
present. For those in the StW coalition who supprted this move I let it be
known I'd be standing for Socialist Alliance Against the War. Some wanted to
know who we were, some visited the website, some looked at the national
leaflets - but nobody backed out when they saw the campaign we were intending
to run (nationally and locally) - a campaign based around the six campaign
points.

The campaign

We decided to stand in the Town Centre ward - the biggest in Preston, with the
largest Labour majority, and some of the worst poverty indicators in the city.
Last year, when the whole council was up for election, the ward returned three
Labour councillors. The Labour candidate this time, Musa Jiwa, an active and
devout muslim, had been third, but he had picked up 800 votes, while the
leading candidate had over 1,000. Normally the Tories and Liberal Democrats get
200-250 votes, so obviously it is considered a safe Labour ward.

Most of the voters in the ward are in Avenham and Frenchwood, which is one of
the two areas in Preston with the highest Asian population. Town Centre is
about a third Asian. There was some discussion about who should stand - whether
it should be somebody from the muslim community, for example.

During the campaign we worked hard. Every house got three leaflets. One of
those was my biography, which obviously said that I was coordinator of Preston
STWC, but the leaflets were Socialist Alliance leaflets rather than just peace
or anti-war leaflets. The first was the national SA leaflet and all three
carried the six points. The second one started off with the failure of New
Labour and how they had disillusioned their own supporters; how they weren't
spending money on health and education but they could launch a war and attack
asylum-seekers. The final leaflet dealt with the kind of council we would be
electing. I said I was an activist who would use the chamber to be the voice of
the oppressed, the exploited and the excluded from across Preston.

We also canvassed hard. On the four days before the election we went out in
small teams. Oin each group there were Asian and white people - and if we
knocked on the door of Asian elders we had Gujirati speakers available to talk
with them.

But as well as the hard work I think we need to understand the election victory
as being the result of the interaction of 4 elements. First, there were
(overwhelmingly but not exclusively) white socialists. In the first week they
set the agenda and did the work. They gave direction to the campaign and made
it clear that with street meetings and a cavalcade it would be different from a
usual Labour type campaign. Secondly there was the involvement of people from
the anti-war movement. These people were not Alliance members (and our task now
is to try and get them to join us). Many of them were from the Muslim community
and their links - and linguistic ability was vital. Thirdly wass the key role
played by one of the imams at the Clarendon Street Mosque. I had been working
very closely with Maulana Said Ahmed during the anti-war campaign. During the
election he made it cleared he supported me. But then, crucially, at Friday
prayers the week before the election he made a statement which said, two
things. First, people should vote (there were leaflets circulating saying it
was against Islam to vote). Second, that although Michael Lavalette was not a
Muslim, and the Labour candidate was, it was Labour who took us into war,
reinforced racism and attacks on asylum seekers and cut welfare - and Michael
Lavalette who, in his experience, was at the forefront of campaigns against
war, racism and cuts. He reinforced this with an analogy. He said: "if we were
in India and the BJP stood a Muslim candidate, would you vote for him?" This
intervention was vital. It pulled people away from Labour and gave us
credibility. Finally, the fourth element kicked in. When it became clear that
we were in with a chance - that we were a real alternative and not a protest
vote - a number of traditional Labour voters (and even some local Labour
activists) came over and voted for us.

So there was this combination: the socialist activists; anti-war,
anti-imperialist people who had broken from Labour and came over to the SA
during the campaign; and the access to the wider community which was afforded
us by the imam. His increasing disenchantment with Labour and his
anti-imperialism meant that he was willing to back - and openly back - a
Socialist Alliance candidate. This helped give us the 'critical mass' which
made us look credible as a real socialist alternative and created a kind of
rolling bandwagon that people felt able to join.

The Future

The response since our victory has been incredible. I have had messages of
support from individuals, SA groups and trade union branches across the
country. I have even had e-mails from Ireland and Australia. People just seem
so relieved that we can win and that it is possible to take on Labour - not
just in the streets and in the unions - but also at their strongest point - at
the polls.

In Preston we hope to build upon this success next year when there are more
seats up for grabs. But this will depend on what we do, how hard we work both
in the council and in the movements. The lesson of Preston is if we immerse
ourselves in the movements then we can build links that can translate into
electoral gain.

For the Alliance it means becoming an organic part of those movements. We
cannot become a three week electoral machine. We will grow by being around all
the time.

For groups outside Preston, I think you can learn lessons from what we did -
but let me stress one final thing. There are no short-cuts. It would be mad for
people just to run off to the local Mosque and expect the Imam to greet you
with open arms. People are breaking with Labour from different traditions. We
must listen, engage and work with them - not preach. But all over the country
there are communities who are being let down by Labour. We need to work closely
with them and - through our practice, by being the best activists - we can win
them over to our side.

Michael Lavalette

12 May 2003

Old Post Thu 15th May 2003
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the scouser

Maybe these Imam blokes (i take it there all blokes) may stand themselves when they realise they could carve up there own areas.

I'm in a white working class area so don't have to deal with the Asians - but i suppose at some point the IWCA would have to put the case to the local populace,in such an area, i wonder if the Asian youth would be intrested?

If we can find common ground on the issue of class we have part of the answer, as said before, many times.

Old Post Fri 16th May 2003
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Bob M

quote:
Originally posted by the scouser
Maybe these Imam blokes (i take it there all blokes) may stand themselves when they realise they could carve up there own areas.

I'm in a white working class area so don't have to deal with the Asians - but i suppose at some point the IWCA would have to put the case to the local populace,in such an area, i wonder if the Asian youth would be intrested?

If we can find common ground on the issue of class we have part of the answer, as said before, many times.




Good point scouser - I'm sure the SWP need the clerics far more than vice versa. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if that's what the Islamic networks were discussing right now!

'Common ground on the issue of class' will be much more difficult than it would otherwise have been if the SA / ANL are running around stoking racial fires, as they're apt to do. The religious partiality of this Islamic love-in will do nothing to endear the lefties to the Hindus etc either. See, they don't realise that communities are anything but SWP-centric, like anyone gives a flying fuck about them! But you come down in one camp and you immediately make an enemy of the rest - maybe these new pals of the Swuppies are dead secular and pro-working class ad infinitum, but somehow I doubt it.

For how many years have Red Action, AFA etc being trying in vain to push the commonality of class before everything else?
What is commonsense to some must read like fucking Arabic to the arse-wipes of the SWP.

I think it's a ridiculous, but telling, reflection of the SA crisis. They'd climb over their Nans to get out of a fucking housefire.
But I get the impression that either way, this time around, they're gonna be engulfed. Councillor or no councillor!

Old Post Sat 17th May 2003
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Thomas Koner

The sa are mistakn if they think that asain muslim vote due to muslim brotherhood.In bradford the muslims mostly come from kashmir/mirpur areas of pakistan,while the those who voted the sa man came from gurati in india.In bradford the indain muslims often see the kashmiris/mirpuris as country bumpkins and uncivilised.So for instance the majortity in bradford would not have voted for the guy in preston,in fact the newest asain counciller in bradford is a tory(bradford moor),and the tory vote in those asain areas rose.

Old Post Sun 18th May 2003
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Jimmy

this racialisation of politics by the SA is as bad as the BNP- and equal to Scargills`s SLP fighting what seems to be, in many places, with solely Indian Sikh and Hindu candidates in areas mainly polulated by Sikhs and Hindus

Old Post Mon 19th May 2003
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Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: [socialistcomrade] Socialist Alliance councillor votes against installation of new mayor


> Michael Lavalette, Socialist Alliance councillor on Preston City
> Council, voted against the installation of the new Major at the
> council meeting on Thursday 15 May. This is the first time the Mayor
> has not been appointed with unanimous support for many years.
>
> Michael Lavalette said: "I refuse to vote for a Mayor appointed by an
> agreement between the Tory and Labour parties.
>
> "The new Mayor is a Tory, his party were fully behind the recent war
> in Iraq and support the continuing occupation of that country by
> British and American troops.
>
> "I was elected as a socialist anti-war candidate I would see it as a
> failure to represent my voters if I voted for a pro-war Mayor.
>
> "I think the pomp and ceremony of tonight's event means little to
> ordinary people in Preston. It's a relic of the past.
>
> "Everyday people in Preston face a variety of problems like racism,
> poverty, inequality and unemployment. Yet here is the council, many
> dressed in funny ancient dress, acting like they are part of an old
> boys club.
>
> "No wonder so many people refuse to vote for these people"

Old Post Mon 19th May 2003
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quote:
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Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: [socialistcomrade] Socialist Alliance councillor votes against installation of new mayor



>
> "Everyday people in Preston face a variety of problems like racism,
> poverty, inequality and unemployment. Yet here is the council, many
> dressed in funny ancient dress, acting like they are part of an old
> boys club.
>
> "No wonder so many people refuse to vote for these people"



'Everyday white working class people face problems like racism and inequality?'

From who? Or was the SA just addressing their new constituency?

Old Post Tue 20th May 2003
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A Freedom Party Supporter

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy

this racialisation of politics by the SA is as bad as the BNP- and equal to Scargills`s SLP fighting what seems to be, in many places, with solely Indian Sikh and Hindu candidates in areas mainly polulated by Sikhs and Hindus

In Sandwell Arthur Scargill's SLP is completely dominated by Sikhs and I think every single candidate for this years local elections was a Sikh. The majority of SLP election campaigning appears to takes place only within the Sikh community, mainly by word of mouth and virtually no whites or Muslims vote for the SLP.

St. Pauls is the only ward where the SLP appears to have any significant support. In several other wards in Sandwell the SLP polled under 100 votes and at the rate things are going have very little potential to increase their support there.

Old Post Tue 20th May 2003
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EmmettG

quote:
Originally posted by the scouser
Maybe these Imam blokes (i take it there all blokes) may stand themselves when they realise they could carve up there own areas.

I'm in a white working class area so don't have to deal with the Asians - but i suppose at some point the IWCA would have to put the case to the local populace,in such an area, i wonder if the Asian youth would be intrested?

If we can find common ground on the issue of class we have part of the answer, as said before, many times.



The area in which we (IWCA) have been campaigning and stood at the election, Govanhill is the most mixed area in Glasgow. We have gained support from all sections of the community, and have attempted to engage with all sections of the community with the same agenda. When we are on the door there is no need to make any distinction on the bases of race. Poverty knows no colour. This is the common ground.

Old Post Wed 21st May 2003
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JC

This piece from Tony Greenstein in Weekly Worker is a neat summary of the SA performance on May 1st.

"But, worst of all, it made no attempt to analyse the local election results and thereby draw conclusions as to why the SA had made no progress since the 2001 general elections. For comrades who are not aware, overall the 159 Socialist Alliance candidates gained an average of five percent. However, two-thirds of SA candidates gained less than five percent and three managed to obtain less than one percent. Just three results were over 20%. Compare this to the British National Party, whose 219 candidates gained an average of over 17%, 58 of whom gained over 20% (compared to 58 SA candidates who gained less than three percent!). In fact the conclusion the SWP drew was that the sole SA victory in Preston - thanks to an alliance with the imam of the mosque - was that the SA was on the advance!"

Old Post Fri 23rd May 2003
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Huw
Re: Socialist Alliance results

quote:
Originally posted by Huw
These are at http://www.socialistalliance.net/news/SAresults.html. However, I'd check to council websites mentioned for accuracy, as I did with the BNP - the BNP UNDERestimated results, eg Mark Collett's percentage!
I should point out that I`ve examined the SA results quoted & found many inaccuracies, eg, they`ve even omitted the Cambridge Petersfield result where they got 72 (3%). I`ll give more detail here later.

Old Post Sat 24th May 2003
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Huw
SA results

4 SA Bolton candidates averaged 3.3% (high 4.7, low 1.8). 4 Bristol candidates averaged 4% (high 6.4, low 2.9; cf. 4 Bristol BNPers they avoided who averaged 8.9%). 7 Chesterfield SAers averaged 4.2% (high 6.5, low 2.2). 4 High Peak SAers averaged 8.7% (high 11.3, low 6.2). 5 Kirklees SAers averaged 2.4% (high 3, low 2.1; cf. 7 Kirklees BNPers who averaged 20.4%). 4 Leeds SAers averaged 3.6% (high 5.2, low 1.9; cf. 8 Leeds BNPers they all but one avoided who averaged 12.2%). 5 Liverpool SAers averaged 4.8% (high 6.7, low 1.9; cf. 3 Liverpool BNPers they all but one avoided who averaged 5.5%). 6 Manchester SAers averaged 4% (high 8, low 0.5 cf. a Manchester BNPer they avoided who polled 11%). 6 Nottingham SAers averaged 4.3% (high 7.2, low 1.6). 4 Oldham SAers averaged 2.6% (high 4.7, low 1.2, cf. 10 Oldham BNPers they all but one avoided who averaged 27.2%). 3 Pendle SAers averaged 3.9% (high 5.4, low 3.1, cf. 4 Pendle BNPers they avoided who averaged 26.1%). 7 Southampton SAers averaged 2.8% (high 4.6, low 1.2, cf. 5 Southampton BNPers they all but 3 avoided who averaged 7.9%). 4 Telford SAers averaged 11% (high 13.7, low 4.3). 10 Walsall SAers averaged 10.2% (high 23.3, low 1.0 - best local results). 20 Wigan SAers averaged 4.7% (high 9.9, low 1.7, cf. 2 Wigan BNPers they all but one avoided who got 12.4 & 26.9%.

Old Post Thu 29th May 2003
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Jeff
Re: SA results

quote:
Originally posted by Huw
4 SA Bolton candidates averaged 3.3% (high 4.7, low 1.8). 4 Bristol candidates averaged 4% (high 6.4, low 2.9; cf. 4 Bristol BNPers they avoided who averaged 8.9%). 7 Chesterfield SAers averaged 4.2% (high 6.5, low 2.2). 4 High Peak SAers averaged 8.7% (high 11.3, low 6.2). 5 Kirklees SAers averaged 2.4% (high 3, low 2.1; cf. 7 Kirklees BNPers who averaged 20.4%). 4 Leeds SAers averaged 3.6% (high 5.2, low 1.9; cf. 8 Leeds BNPers they all but one avoided who averaged 12.2%). 5 Liverpool SAers averaged 4.8% (high 6.7, low 1.9; cf. 3 Liverpool BNPers they all but one avoided who averaged 5.5%). 6 Manchester SAers averaged 4% (high 8, low 0.5 cf. a Manchester BNPer they avoided who polled 11%). 6 Nottingham SAers averaged 4.3% (high 7.2, low 1.6). 4 Oldham SAers averaged 2.6% (high 4.7, low 1.2, cf. 10 Oldham BNPers they all but one avoided who averaged 27.2%). 3 Pendle SAers averaged 3.9% (high 5.4, low 3.1, cf. 4 Pendle BNPers they avoided who averaged 26.1%). 7 Southampton SAers averaged 2.8% (high 4.6, low 1.2, cf. 5 Southampton BNPers they all but 3 avoided who averaged 7.9%). 4 Telford SAers averaged 11% (high 13.7, low 4.3). 10 Walsall SAers averaged 10.2% (high 23.3, low 1.0 - best local results). 20 Wigan SAers averaged 4.7% (high 9.9, low 1.7, cf. 2 Wigan BNPers they all but one avoided who got 12.4 & 26.9%.


Huw your obviusly expert in the field of collating. Cheers for that. However apart from Preston which has been explained in depth, do we any analysis for the other half dozen decent SA results?

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