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TERRA FIRMA: NATIONAL-ANARCHISM ONLINE

TERRA FIRMA: NATIONAL-ANARCHISM ONLINE

Terra Firma is a new revolutionary think-tank committed to debating and advancing the principles of National-Anarchism around the world. We shall be publishing a series of articles and reviews on a quarterly basis, so please let us know if you would like to contribute.

So find yourselves a grassy knoll, place your fingers on the trigger and point your browsers at:

http://www.terrafirma.rosenoire.org/

Troy, what do you say to Third Position allegations (see the pamphlet, `Satanism`) you`re a Satanist?

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Originally posted by M-113
Troy, what do you say to Third Position allegations (see the pamphlet, `Satanism`) you`re a Satanist?

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Two documents concerning the ITP which were published by the National Revolutionary Faction (now defunct) in the late-90s:

Statement on the ITP
http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/itp.php

Paranoia in the pews
http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/paranoia.php

spooky!

'Im more likely to be a Luciferian than a devil worshipper'??
Wow..im glad that as i trudge to work to face another day of crap job for crap pay..trudge home again seeing local kids shooting up, maybe even the odd attempt to mug me..after all this I can rest sound at night knowing that troy southgate is a Luciferian!
Troy: you are proper Bo' I tell thee!

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Originally posted by Troy Southgate
Two documents concerning the ITP which were published by the National Revolutionary Faction (now defunct) in the late-90s:

Statement on the ITP
http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/itp.php

Paranoia in the pews
http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/paranoia.php

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Re: spooky!

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Originally posted by Frank
'Im more likely to be a Luciferian than a devil worshipper'??
Wow..im glad that as i trudge to work to face another day of crap job for crap pay..trudge home again seeing local kids shooting up, maybe even the odd attempt to mug me..after all this I can rest sound at night knowing that troy southgate is a Luciferian!
Troy: you are proper Bo' I tell thee!

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Originally posted by real world


I worked my way through both articles and your website linkled above can i take it the bottom line is still :

Wogs Out !

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Originally posted by Troy Southgate


Wogs out? Are you serious?

Anyone who seriously believes that black people can be repatriated is living in a dream-world. What we advocate is our own space in which to live according to our own principles. If people want to mix with black and asian people that's up to them. To prevent them from doing so, however, is just as fascistic as forcing people to accept multi-racialism.

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Troy

hmm..well it must have gone over my head...anyway anyone out there remember the old Transeuropa/Perpectives magazine? Oh those were the days!

National Anarchist?

Whats going on there then?

Seems a bit mad if you ask me - i mean, who the fuck wants to join the greenshirts (as advertised on the website)

"We are a camping and hiking fraternity committed to the eternal principles of blood and soil. We style ourselves upon the German Wandervogel of Hans Bluher and the legionary activities of Corneliu Codreanu’s Romanian Iron Guard. Our task is the creation of a dedicated hard-core of young men and women who have turned their backs upon the corrosive influence of urbanism and decay. As the modern world crumbles around us, we discover the meaning of true comradeship and camaraderie amid the heat of the camp fire and the gentle fluttering of our banners. "

Be alright if there was some beer, a bit of music and some women.

RE "In the first article, Mr Southgate has taken his information about Fiore's business dealings straight from the pages of Searchlight. Should Fiore sue him, the Searchlight article would be the sole basis of his defence."

We've got a right plonker here. Between 1989 and 1992 I visited Meeting Point, Fiore's offices based in Kensington High Street, on a regular basis. I also stayed at the properties described in the article on countless occasions. So I think I know precisely what I'm talking about. And I never read Searchlight, either.

RE "We are talking about a movement in the UK of no more than ten in the ITP, and it would appear only two in Mr Southgate's "faction"; himself and his alias's."

I don't use an alias. At least not since The Crusader magazine was discontinued back in the late-90s.

RE "Southgate enjoys discussing himself in the third person."

Southgate? what does he know? Anyway, I only wrote the article from that perspective because it was originally published abroad by the American Front.

RE "Why does he not prove his claims about stolen monies, printer etc?"

And how do you expect me to do that? I'm not in the habit of telling lies. Everything in that article is accurate. Are you a member of the ITP, by any chance? Fascist wanker.

RE "These people are so fucking unimportant that I have absolutely no idea why I even bothered reading the shite. Troy, get a fucking life."

I've got one, pal. And a bloody good one, too. Nice family, lots of friends, I have a smashing time.

RE "There's plenty of free porn on the net, try that instead 'cause as far as your politics are involved I couldn't give a fuck what religon you're into this week: You, Fiore, Holland etc are politically shit."

Blimey, you've really tied me in knots this time ...

RE "The use of words like "revolutionary" and "faction" etc is teeny bopper politcal wank usually seen in the SWP. Not only that, to quote my daughter you're all "so eighties" and she was not even born then. Your old mate Nick did very well to realise that."


Ha! Ha! What a sad prick ...


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Re: Troy

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Originally posted by Frank
hmm..well it must have gone over my head...anyway anyone out there remember the old Transeuropa/Perpectives magazine? Oh those were the days!

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RE. 'We are talking about a movement in the UK of no more than ten in the ITP, and it would appear only two in Mr Southgate's "faction"; himself and his alias's.'

It is an absolute myth that you need vast numbers of supporters to 'do politics'. As Mr Princip showed in Sarajevo almost a century ago, one man acting alone can change history. Do I need to remind you of the 'Cleopatra's nose' theory of history?

Numbers are important if your strategy is to win elections or to overthrow a regime by force. Those are not the aims of national-anarchists. Moreover, those of you (Red Action, BNP or anyone else) who think that you'll change society by waiting for the masses to support you are living in fantasy land. The people, on the whole and with a small percentage of exceptions, will generally follow the media and the 'opinion formers' of the day -- so long as they feel reasonably secure and not too hungry. No revolutionary movement in Britain today has the resources to change the line of the media or the 'opinion formers' so all revolutionary strategies based upon gaining mass support will fail.

The national-anarchists, by contrast, are concerned with building small communities, acquiring resources, forming alliances and influencing people. Mass support is not a prerequesite for these strategies. Success is not defined in terms of changing the society that we've got -- which is beyond hope -- but rather in terms of movement along a path leading towards constructing complete alternatives for those who wish to opt out of the entire putrid, hypocritical, filthy farce altogether.

I think that the future is bright for national-anarchism, both nationally and worldwide. Here in England I don't see the BNP lasting for much longer. Once they start running out of steam they'll collapse like a pack of cards. There'll be an awful lot of very disillusioned, very embittered men and women looking for a new political home when that happens.

I'll be waiting for them.

"fascist wanker." Get your hands off it, Troy. Perhaps YOU were the source to Searchlight, then? "Lots of friends"? Then why post here? I seem to remember landing my boot in your backside in the eighties, was it in Maidstone?

I look forward to doing it again, next time your mass "movement" crawls out from under the toilet.