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Posted by JC on Fri 23rd May 2003 07:48pm:

Peace and Justice Party

Got this off the URBAN 75 site:

Workers Power and Socialist Alliance
The following is kicking around the Uk_Left_Network at the moment. Can any of the Workers Power people clear this up? Or the Sheffield SA people (that non-aligned ex-SWP member of Sheffield SA seems awful familiar...)? Can any of the SWP people tell us if there is any truth in the "Peace and Justice Party" thing?


>At the committee mtg tonight the Workers Power rep sent notice that
>she has resigned - due to the direction of the SA. They have not
>pulled out of the alliance but will not have anyone on the committee
>or do any SA activity, so as good as. She did not come to the
>meeting to put this point of view or argue her views. Has this
>happened nationally?
>Information that also came from her via a non aligned ex SWPer was
>that the SWP are planning to launch a 'Peace and Justice ' party.
>Apparently the basis for this is negotiations that have taken place
>with anti war activists in birmingham and a Britsh Muslim
>association (not sure which one, but people seemed to think not
>MAB). I'm not sure how reliable this all is but thought you night
>know more..?
>Alison

Posted by A Freedom Party Supporter on Sat 24th May 2003 07:42pm:

Re: Peace and Justice Party

quote:
Originally posted by JC

Got this off the URBAN 75 site:

Workers Power and Socialist Alliance
The following is kicking around the Uk_Left_Network at the moment. Can any of the Workers Power people clear this up? Or the Sheffield SA people (that non-aligned ex-SWP member of Sheffield SA seems awful familiar...)? Can any of the SWP people tell us if there is any truth in the "Peace and Justice Party" thing?

There is a political party that seems to be restricted to certain inner parts of Birmingham call the Kashmiri People's Justice Party and has councillors but as far as I am aware it has no links to any far left groups. I have heard stories that the far left hate this party and a Labour councillor has criticised it for being so heavily aligned with one ethnic group nameley the Kashmiri population that it is almost the BNP in reverse.

It was a party that made much progress in the Small Heath and Sparkbrook part of Birmingham during 2000ish but appears to be losing its grip and has lost a council seat to the Lib-Dems.

>At the committee mtg tonight the Workers Power rep sent notice that
>she has resigned - due to the direction of the SA. They have not
>pulled out of the alliance but will not have anyone on the committee
>or do any SA activity, so as good as. She did not come to the
>meeting to put this point of view or argue her views. Has this
>happened nationally?
>Information that also came from her via a non aligned ex SWPer was
>that the SWP are planning to launch a 'Peace and Justice ' party.
>Apparently the basis for this is negotiations that have taken place
>with anti war activists in birmingham and a Britsh Muslim
>association (not sure which one, but people seemed to think not
>MAB). I'm not sure how reliable this all is but thought you night
>know more..?

A likelihood exists in that an Islamic party will soon form to represent the interests of Muslims and could be of a hardline and militant variety. Muslims are abandoning Labour in droves and although many of them supported the Lib-Dems this May they do not see that party as the long term future and certainly not capable of challenging the BNP.

Posted by Wee Jimmy on Mon 26th May 2003 09:59pm:

Peace and Justice Party

It's not the same as the existing Kashmiri PJP.

As I understand it, this new Peace and Justice Party has arisen from the chumminess between leadning figures in Bham STWC (particularly Salma Yacoob, the chair) and SWP figures such as Ger "Sacked" Francis, their ex-full timer.

Salma Yacoob will probably be the candidate in the euro-elections. What the political basis will be I've no idea, though it will probably be very funny to see the SWP trying to reconcile this popular front's politics with their own.

Posted by Tobireg on Mon 26th May 2003 09:59pm:

As I understand it, John Rees of the SWP has been in talks with the Kashmiri Peoples Justice Party about standing a joint candidate in the euro elections as part of the KPJP becoming the basis of a working class Muslim party, It looks as though this would be initially at least, a local initiative. ..

Posted by Thomas Koner on Tue 27th May 2003 06:10pm:

quote:
Originally posted by Tobireg
As I understand it, John Rees of the SWP has been in talks with the Kashmiri Peoples Justice Party about standing a joint candidate in the euro elections as part of the KPJP becoming the basis of a working class Muslim party, It looks as though this would be initially at least, a local initiative. ..




John rees is heading a quasi-religous party with just a smittering of socaislism,what a oppoutinist arsehole

Posted by Frank on Tue 27th May 2003 06:10pm:

SWP/Muslim Party

Here's a few tidbits on Ger Francis..who got sacked from the SWP:

http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=46500

http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=49192

http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=49195


Given the Islamic view on women, w/c people, gays etc surely its now only a matter of time before the SWP/MAB entity fuse with the BNP too...

Posted by A Freedom Party Supporter on Wed 28th May 2003 08:03pm:

quote:
Originally posted by Tobireg

As I understand it, John Rees of the SWP has been in talks with the Kashmiri Peoples Justice Party about standing a joint candidate in the euro elections as part of the KPJP becoming the basis of a working class Muslim party, It looks as though this would be initially at least, a local initiative. ..

Is John Rees Muslim ? I think the Kashmiri People's Justice Party is only open to Muslims and of Kashmiri origin.

Posted by Frank on Thu 29th May 2003 06:27pm:

Peace n Jusitice...

See that indymedia have picked up on thie (some of it looks strangely familiar..)


http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=69638&group=webcast

So much for the 'socialist' alliance...

Posted by Thomas Koner on Thu 29th May 2003 06:27pm:

quote:
Originally posted by A Freedom Party Supporter

As I understand it, John Rees of the SWP has been in talks with the Kashmiri Peoples Justice Party about standing a joint candidate in the euro elections as part of the KPJP becoming the basis of a working class Muslim party, It looks as though this would be initially at least, a local initiative. ..

Is John Rees Muslim ? I think the Kashmiri People's Justice Party is only open to Muslims and of Kashmiri origin.



He will be what you want him to be,so long they is chance for a opertunity.In few yrs time he will be probaly up the arses of hindus,buddhists,clavinists enter who ever here.....................
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